I just recently gave this bible study on-line to someone who believes the Roman road for Salvation. This is my reply: @ ?????? I want to clear somethings up for you since your seriously misguided in the scriptures. What you gave was good but I believe and know there is more to what you gave. It wasn't the Whole truth concerning the scriptures you gave for salvation. But rather they didn't harmonize with the rest of the bible. The Bible will never contradict itself. I also believe the scriptures should answer for themselves. So I will copy and paste what you said and show you a more PERFECT WAY from the scriptures. Please allow me to give answers to your posts. ?????? stated: "u guys crack me up the united pentecostal doctrine. Jesus gave us the plan of salvation mark 1:15.repent and believe the gospel." My reply: It's not a particular organization that sets their standards of truth. It's the Word of God. 2nd of All Yes Jesus did say REPENT and Believe the Gospel. So what is the Gospel according to scripture? 1Corinthians15:1-4 states it's the DEATH BURIAL,AND RESURRECTION Of JESUS CHRIST. Ok your Next comment~" the way to be saved is acts 16:30_31." My reply to these verses since they are obviously taken out of it's proper context in scripture,and here's Why. You said baptism isn't necessary but THE BIBLE TELLS US Different! In those same passages of scripture you gave us Read the very next few verses 32And they spake unto him the word of the Lord, and to all that were in his house.
33And he took them the same hour of the night, and washed their stripes; and WAS BAPTIZED, he and all his, straightway. 34And when he had brought them into his house, he set meat before them, and rejoiced, believing in God with all his house. So we CAN SEE Scripture in fact tells us that all his family and the Jailor were BAPTIZED because they truly BELIEVED the apostles Word about the GOSPEL. Ok Next Passage about salvation you gave~romans 10:9-10 My reply is 14How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?
15And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!
16But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report? Who's Report? Who was sent to preach?The Apostle's! Not all that may have said they believed on Jesus Obeyed the gospel! Just Having faith is not enough to be saved. See James 2:17-24 I will give verse 17 to save space but if you have time please look up all the scriptures I gave. One must have both Faith and Works. James 2:17 (King James Version)
17Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone. Moving on to the next scripture which also is taken out of context. eph 2:8 Also the scriptures you gave in Romans was not written to sinners and the same it is for Ephesians. See Romans 1:7 (King James Version)
7To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ. Ephesians 1:1 (King James Version)
Ephesians 1
1Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, to the saints which are at Ephesus, and to the faithful in Christ Jesus: But Rather these epistles were written to the Saints (ALREADY BORN -AGAIN believers ) Where and How did the first christian churches get established? Go back to the Book Of Acts chapter 2. The first message of salvation Preached to guilty Sinners is found in Acts 2:37-42 (King James Version)
37Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?
38Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
39For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the LORD our God shall call.
40And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.
41Then they that GLADLY RECEIVED HIS WORD WERE BAPTIZED: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.
42And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers. The Last scripture you gave for salvation was not complete as well . You gave john 3:16-17. For it's proper context it should be read John 3:16-21 (King James Version)
16For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
17For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
18He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
19And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
20For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.You see people that rejected the Apostle's doctrine didn't want to face the LIGHT. They Loved The Darkness(sin) MORE than the Light.
So in acts we can read countless of times when the people believed they obeyed the Gospel. That's how they could tell that they believed -they obeyed the Gospel. FAITH AND WORKS.They Believed and
Obeyed Acts 2:38!!! Now do you think Paul believed the same Gospel as Peter? You BET!! Acts 19:1-6 (King James Version)
Acts 19
1And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples,
2He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.
3And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism.
4Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.
5When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
6And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.
